Hmm, I don't think you're wrong! About SPN being a different beast to add queer content to as opposed to say, Shadowhunters or Riverdale. But I am wondering what the audience for SPN is honestly; I always thought the audience was mainly women and left leaning women, and there wasn't much of a 'right' audience to cater too; if the show ever did lean that way, it was because of the people running it and their interests, not the fanbase (this is not including stuff like, the fanbase hates this female character so let's kill her off, though I blame the show for that too, not really the fanbase). The show never cared about being progressive in any way but honestly...most dudes I encountered IRL did not like Supernatural. My mom loves the show (long after I stopped watching it), my dad flat out refused to watch it. I always thought something in the dynamics between Sam&Dean and Dean&Castiel and the lack of a female love interest repulsed men for some reason?
But that's just an anecdote, really, so I could be way off base. In general, I guess I'm wondering if the network would really stop Dean/Cas from being more canon? In the finale episode? The way it ended, they completely closed the book on other stories or a future movie, so I don't see the harm in making Dean/Castiel canon in the actual last scene, it's not going to kill the audience for the future, and I don't think it'd damage their brand or their business, really....which isn't to say you're wrong that the network may have had some influence over the way things panned out! But it's just frustrating, because, they don't really have much to lose here?
Re: behind the scenes battles, I've heard rumors the current showrunner didn't really care about Castiel, so my tin-hat theory is that Beren wanted Dean/Cas (and maybe others like Misha) and the showrunner didn't so they went halfway and left it unsatisfying for everyone...it really leaves a bad taste in my mouth that Castiel never came back after confessing his gay love, tbh.
#I too have not watched regularly since the end of S5 and I didn't even see the finale, I should not have so many opinions on this.
LOL I SAW YOUR REPLY ON JIMMY. He's absolutely not relevant but I think SPN has weird ideas over what's considered relevant...I think Dean's heaven was going to be filled with characters we know like Ellen, Jo, Mary, John, and Jimmy (??? ok then), but they couldn't get the actors because covid. So I think Jimmy was just meant to be a smaller part of a bigger cast showing. I think Misha (and Jensen and Jared) probably know more though, they're just being very diplomatic about it. I heard Jensen hasn't said anything at all about the finale.
Do you think they'll break their NDA? I worry we'll have to wait years for someone to dish actual juicey behind the scenes stuff.
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But that's just an anecdote, really, so I could be way off base. In general, I guess I'm wondering if the network would really stop Dean/Cas from being more canon? In the finale episode? The way it ended, they completely closed the book on other stories or a future movie, so I don't see the harm in making Dean/Castiel canon in the actual last scene, it's not going to kill the audience for the future, and I don't think it'd damage their brand or their business, really....which isn't to say you're wrong that the network may have had some influence over the way things panned out! But it's just frustrating, because, they don't really have much to lose here?
Re: behind the scenes battles, I've heard rumors the current showrunner didn't really care about Castiel, so my tin-hat theory is that Beren wanted Dean/Cas (and maybe others like Misha) and the showrunner didn't so they went halfway and left it unsatisfying for everyone...it really leaves a bad taste in my mouth that Castiel never came back after confessing his gay love, tbh.
#I too have not watched regularly since the end of S5 and I didn't even see the finale, I should not have so many opinions on this.
LOL I SAW YOUR REPLY ON JIMMY. He's absolutely not relevant but I think SPN has weird ideas over what's considered relevant...I think Dean's heaven was going to be filled with characters we know like Ellen, Jo, Mary, John, and Jimmy (??? ok then), but they couldn't get the actors because covid. So I think Jimmy was just meant to be a smaller part of a bigger cast showing. I think Misha (and Jensen and Jared) probably know more though, they're just being very diplomatic about it. I heard Jensen hasn't said anything at all about the finale.
Do you think they'll break their NDA? I worry we'll have to wait years for someone to dish actual juicey behind the scenes stuff.