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ever_neutral ([personal profile] ever_neutral) wrote2013-12-29 01:06 pm

026. they say love is a virtue, don't they

... so, in case it wasn't already evident, the december ramble meme is on hold b/c real life got real. hoping to fill the rest of the prompts over the next month. in any case, they will be done.

WAS planning to get some more done before the end of the month but then made the mistake of watching the doctor who xmas special. and then... rewatching the rerun the following night. i do these things to myself. nonsensical episode, only relevant part was the last five minutes. i will be ready to talk about it when i'm dead.

... i did, however, finally manage to mainline love potential and liveblog it as requested by jessica.


let's do this


EP 1

ok so 5s into ep 1 and i'm side-eying??? "i met my ideal type"? "while he never once dated gieok hoped for his 'princess' to appear and 10 years later finally he met her". um?

"from middle to high school got rejected by 15 different girls" lol this is not a good start.

"i believed there must exist somewhere a girl with innocence". this monologue plays over ki eok literally cutting out body parts to create an "ideal girl". W T F.

gieok's father telling him to masturbate WHILE THE NUTCRACKER THEME PLAYS. I'M CHOKING.

so jihyun is gorgeous, obviously. which reminds me eleonore told me she's 4minute's LEADER even though she gets 5s of screen time in every mv, wtf. so, lookin' forward to seeing what she can do. NOT looking forward to anti-shipping her and sungyeol's character-- gieok imagining his cut-out "ideal type" over her and then calling her "princess" is possibly the worst start to a main ship you could give me. PRAYER CIRCLE THIS SHOW IS REALLY ABOUT DECONSTRUCTING THIS EXACT TROPE.


EP 2

fuck sungyeol's woobie face.

O M G DID SOMEONE JUST SAY "FUCKERS" IN A KDRAMA? I'M SCANDALISED.

CRAYON POP REFERENCE!

btw i like that sungyeol is so convincing at playing a nerd b/c it ~confirms~ my highschool/college!infinite headcanon that he and myungsoo were total l0sers at least until sungyeol grew up hot and then cheated on myungsoo with the plastics a.k.a. the 91-line. BUT THIS IS A STORY FOR ANOTHER TIME.

ok good minah gets her own pov time. this is promising.


EP 3

so i like that minah is mostly initiating things w/gieok but still wary about this whole trope of "nerd who's never known love finally gets appreciated by hot girl"? we'll see.

lol i bet sungyeol had fun filming that bus scene. i mean, what.

L O L MINAH'S GAY HEADCANONS. FAVE TBH.

i ship these two dudes tbh (sorry idr anyone's names).

oh em gee minah is such a dork ilh. they could have made that dance studio scene ~sexy but nope.

fml teacher!sungyeol. hold my sexual frustration.

tbh idr what happened in the rest of the ep after that.

oh no wait ramyun. ofc there must be ramyun.


EP 4

ok i like this inadvertently getting drunk together thing. IF I IGNORE THE GROSSNESS OF ALL OF EP 1 AND THE SETUP OF GIEOK'S CHARACTER THEN I CAN LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS FRIENDSHIP/RELATIONSHIP.

w t f @ this angel/devil scene where gieok tries to decide whether or not to feel up mi nah w/o her consent? THIS IS SO MOTHERFUCKING SQUICK-TASTIC?? i mean, on the one hand, props to the show for actually saying it'd be sexual violence BUT OTOH EW.

k gieok's father's homophobia when mi nah lies about him being gay is not amusing.

"which part of you looks gay? you look so manly and strong." no.

ok now they're doing a school play together and gieok is being told he should try out for female roles as well as male ones and looks vv displeased about it and i lol @ all the sungyeol overlap.


EP 5

awww, gieok making a bunch of real props for the play.

OMFG I SHIP THESE TWO DUDES SO MUCH.

can we not with this action teacher's male-gaze pan up drama teacher lady's body.

"it's because my heart hurts too much" you loser.

yesssssssss minah being the boss of gieok and calling him pabo 10 million times VV GOOD.

lol no show don't make me feel bad for gieok b/c minah didn't want to kiss him.

sungyeol's woobie face is truly terrible tho.


EP 6

i wonder if gieok is gonna have the male equivalent of the ugly duckling transformation where he gets hot and then minah will finally want to kiss him. BOOKMARK THIS QUOTE.

i love this unimpressed drama teacher ngl. what a boss.

ugh can we not with this bikini runway male fantasy.

SUNGYEOL IN PINK TOWEL.

"i like rides that aren't fun too!!!" WHAT. A. LOSER.

but yes good ferris wheels are my shit continue.

ok this ferris wheel confession is sweet save for the "no other girl was worth paying attention to until you" part. APART FROM THAT.

SHE'S REJECTED HIS PROPOSAL. ANGST. \o/ \o/ \o/


EP 7

bless drama teacher lady's constant cussing.

"gieok's acting has really improved!" how meta. seriously though, sungyeol is great in this -- i hope his next project is just better/less frustrating (and longer).

el oh el this entire sequence where gieok's friend does elaborate calculations to figure out who minah's crush is.

lol i'm glad people in the show actually recognise that gieok/sungyeol is handsome -- if he was supposed to be some fugly twerp that'd be motherfucking stupid.

and the ol' yeollie scream makes an appearance.

O M F G whatsisface throwing other whatsisface (sorry idr anyone's names apart from sungyeol and jihyun's characters) into the ocean O T FUCKING P !!!!!!!!!!!!

the yeol is wet. and once again i forget what happened in the rest of the ep.


EP 8

i hope gieok comes out of this drama with a firmer sense of self -- "if princess minah likes something i'll like it just as much because she does" is a delightfully pathetic sentiment but also no.

why is sassy drama teacher lady so invested in gieok/minah though.

… so, i've never actually had a legit hangover (b/c i get sick of alcohol before i can drink TOO MUCH). do people w/hangovers actually dry retch everywhere or what.

obligatory couple montage time.

DRAMATIC RUNNING SEQUENCE.

so minah has called gieok over and caused him to run like 10 blocks just b/c she wants to get drunk AND THEN SHE DRUNKENLY PINCHES HIS CHEEKS AND CRIES ABOUT HOW CUTE HE IS AND BURSTS INTO TEARS AND OH NO YOU DON'T SHOW DON'T MAKE WANT TO SHIP IT. AND JIHYUN IS THE MOST ADORABLE, WHY HAVE I NEVER PAID ATTENTION TO HER BEFORE???

lol this men's room scene where gieok's cronies confront the dude on the toilet wtf

O M G MINAH WITNESSING THE GAY SMOOCHIES


EP 9

gieok being broody bedridden minah's slave while she pays no attention to him, now this is the kind of dynamic i can be on board with, trololol.

why is sungyeol's whiny begging so mothereffing qt

MINAH SCREAMING AT GIEOK AND TELLING HIM NOT TO COME OVER AGAIN. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SHOW, GIRL-TREATING-BOY-BADLY IS MY DOWNFALL. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

btw jihyun is great??? does anyone who's better versed about 4minute things know what other things she's been in?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO GIEOK DOING STUPID AEGYO TO MAKE MI NAH LAUGH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. (also that was 150% sungyeol there tbh.)

drama teacher lady is such a disdainful bitch, god bless.

NOW THEY ARE STUCK IN THE RAIN TOGETHER AND THIS IS SO CLICHE BUT I AM EATING THIS SHIT UP. WHEN DID LIFE GO SO HORRIBLY WRONG.


EP 10

"you were weird before but now you're not weird" is the title of this ep hmmmmmmmmm

MORE WET YEOL. WHY.

ok look i am all over girl-takes-guy-friend-for-granted-to-disguise-nascent-feelings b/c i'm trash but there is really no need for minah to feel guilty about rejecting gieok? that was totally her right.

ugh but now they are talking through the wall via paper cups NOOOOOOOOOOOO :( :( :(

WHAT IS THIS QT UPBEAT CATCHY SONG PLAYING OVER THE SEQUENCE OF THE DRAMA CLUB BUILDING SETS?? IT IS A JAM TBH.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA IT IS DESTINY!SUNGYEOL ON THE POSTER. A+++++++++++++++. THAT IS SOME MOVIE POSTER BULLSHIT RIGHT THERE.

I KNEW IT. HE'S UNCURLED HIS HAIR FOR OPENING NIGHT. THE UGLY DUCKLING HAS BECOME A HOT PIECE. I KNOW HOW THESE THINGS WORK. (to be serious though this unruly curls = ugly duckling trope needs to stop.)

DRAMATIC FAINTING


EP 11

oh yay i like that we get to see the actual play!

SUNGYEOL THE LOAN SHARK!!!!!11111 THE HAIR GAME IS SO ON POINT.

SUNGYEOL GETS TO CUSS. OH EM EFF GEE.

gangsta sungyeol is so inappropriately motherfucking attractive i want to rip open my couch and eat it. (that said i don't find him to be threatening vibe at all.)

btw jihyun and this other dude she's married to in the play are good job.

murder by knife is always a good way to end things.


EP 12

noooooooooo now the wife has to save the husband!! this story within a story is so compelling, lmao.

OHO NOW THE WIFE IS DEALING W/LOAN SHARK SUNGYEOL TO SAVE HUSBAND. SUNGYEOL IS DISTURBINGLY ATTRACTIVE WHILE PRETENDING TO BE A DISGUSTING HUMAN BEING. I QUESTION MY TASTE FOREVER.

… why do i want fill-in-the-blanks fic of wife/gangster sungyeol during the time she was enslaved to him. WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME. WE MAY NEVER KNOW.

this whole story-within-a-story thing is interesting. i wonder there's something there about gieok fashioning fantasies for himself and then getting so lost in them that he hurts himself. I AM PROBABLY OVERTHINKING THIS.

lol now sunglasses dude w/his terrible acting has to fill in. NO WAIT GIEOK IS BACK.

FUCK. WHY. AM. I. WRONG!SHIPPING. THE. WIFE. AND. GANGSTER. SUNGYEOL. WHY IS THIS MY LIFE.

KISSING.

oho now the drama has morphed back into gieok/minah HOW META. but lol why is the audience cheering for the abused woman to get with the gangster who has literally treated her like property for two years. wtf. (WE DO NOT TALK ABOUT MY WRONG!SHIPPING.)

more couple montage.

AND KISSING. LEGIT KISSING.

you know, all this kissing now makes me bitter about myungsoo and woohyun apparently being forbidden from making out with their love interests in their previous dramas (fine, woohyun is more pressing to me b/c out of the two of them he actually has chemistry with women, TROLOLOLOL sorry soo). i wonder if sungyeol has more freedom here b/c he wasn't specifically asked to appear for idol fame reasons and therefore possessive angry fangirls was less of a concern? THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS HOT PEOPLE KISSING IS GOOD.


ANYWAY. VERDICT:

so this has been a vv weird journey with this show where i hated it and then by the end i loved it.

mostly, i wish we could excise all that "ideal type" nonsense from the first few episodes. if i ignore all that then the gieok/minah relationship arc is ~everything i wanted~. him falling in ~love at first sight~ and projecting all his problematic romantic fantasies on to her (which was evident enough without the show spelling it out), followed by her rejecting him and totally blowing apart said fantasies -- and then him learning how to be her friend and see her as a person rather than a romantic object. and then she realises her feelings for him because they've actually grown close and she can rely on him.

OKAY, THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL STORY ARC IN ITSELF TBH.

all the "poor nerd rejected by 15 girls" setup was just unnecessarily manpain-y and now i am sadly wondering if the moral of the story was supposed to be "poor rejected nerd finally finds ideal woman who appreciates him where those other bitches failed." which. NOCURR, I REJECT THIS PREMISE, MINE IS BETTER.

moving on. so, sungyeol and jihyun were both GREAT. although sungyeol was a lot more convincing to me as gieok than the loan shark, which i guess is b/c gieok was the one acting as the loan shark. that, or sungyeol's strength as an actor lies in loser nerd roles. (on that note he was good in "while you were sleeping", too, at least the cuts i saw.)

anyway. chemistry: they had it especially during the wife/loan shark scenes b/c i'm trash.

and i've now become somewhat a jihyun stan. girl is fab, where has she been all my life.

WHAT DID Y'ALL (i.e. the other five people on my flist) THINK? :D






hope everyone's xmas/last week was acceptable.

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
i will not hear it and i won't respond to it.
verdant_fire: (dw: baggage)

[personal profile] verdant_fire 2013-12-29 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
A+ post title. I have listened to Trouble Will Find Me approximately 871 times since it came out. Matt Berninger's baritone despair is one of my favorite things. <3

I have not seen the Doctor Who Christmas special because I mostly flounced from DW when Moffat took over. (Whilst I do love Sherlock passionately, I find Moffat's writing to be often problematic, and his version of Irene sends me into feminist rage fits.) However, I shall assume your aforementioned 5 minutes had something to do with Eleven/Amy heartbreak, and thus I look forward to being tortured by it at some future date when I am bored and the current season is made available on Netflix.

Happy impending New Year and stuff. May you bathe in the blood of your enemies, etc.

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
You always have my music feels. :( ♥

I wouldn't bother with the Christmas special tbh -- you can basically look up the last five minutes on YouTube, everything else is irrelevant, trololol!

May you bathe in the blood of your enemies, etc.
Indeed, indeed. Same to you.

[identity profile] kwritten.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
RL is the rudest and I miss you!

(I should probably watch please remember me princess, huh?)

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 07:40 am (UTC)(link)


(Do it. Do itttttttttt.)

[identity profile] scorpiod1.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
I don't even watch doctor who and the Amy/Eleven stuff makes me UPSET and weepy because Peter Pan/Wendy ships forever /o\

I apologize for the realness of real life, woe. I hope the new year treats you kindly though <3

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
YOU EVEN MENTION PETER/WENDY AT ME (but lol, so much worse than that because imagine a version where Peter actually chooses Wendy but only gets to have Neverland as poor consolation. SPARE YOURSELF FROM THIS, SCORP /o\).

The Real Life isn't too bad, just distracting. And you too, bro. ♥

[identity profile] bellonablack.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
Watching your complete bout face with the episode summary is awesome, I have to try it.

*and I hugs you about your doctor loss* it is that time again. >/

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
LOL, NO REALLY, that episode was a hot mess. JUST LOOK UP THE LAST FIVE MINUTES AND YOU ARE GOOD TO GO.

I'm not too cut up about Matt Smith leaving, actually. He's had a good run and it's just time. Bring on the Capaldi.

[identity profile] upupa-epops.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
*waves frantically*

Good luck with RL! It can be very troublesome. Why do we insist on being adults, I do not know.

I've seen the Christmas special, and you'll be pleased to know that I immediately thought of you when The Five Minutes started!

Ngl, the episode was redundant, and I only watched it because Moffat has good scenographers, and I hope for some shiny Christmasy views. I got some, but not enough to satisfy me, therefore I shall rewatch Grinch tonight.

(Also, let me know when you're not dead, because I have Shiny Things planned, and not all of them are all about Elena! TVD finally managed to wear me down...)

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 11:53 am (UTC)(link)
*tips hat*

Yes, I need all the luck I can get with associating with family friends at holiday parties.

you'll be pleased to know that I immediately thought of you when The Five Minutes started!
I'll be pleased when I'm dead.

therefore I shall rewatch Grinch tonight.
God bless.

(Ugh, once the New Year starts I'll probably be snowed under with summer internship work. /o\ But I am aware of your shiny plans and I'm actively enabling Kelsey's plans about your plans!)

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[identity profile] horatios.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)


please remember princess = ??/10? NOBODY IS WATCHING THE PRIME MINISTER AND I. it's my k-drama of the moment, damn it.

I HOPE YOUR XMAS WAS OKAY. <3 (or at least not horrible, because xmas is hard like that, eh.)

Edited 2013-12-29 12:17 (UTC)

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)


fyi please remember princess is a qt/odd mini-drama starring some idol bros. wth is the prime minister & i.

i survived xmas. i see you did too. word to that.

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[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I am TOTALLY going to watch Prime Minister and I. I'm kind of obsessed with it already and I haven't even watched it. Yoona's adorable little face forever!

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[identity profile] une-jonquille.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
SPOT am only through Ep 4. Will say that my expectations for the dubcon scene were so low that the fact that he had an "angel" over his shoulder calling it sexual violence and asking him questions about consent pleased me.

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2013-12-30 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
True, although ngl I'd prefer that entire scene had just been excised altogether because UGH.

Lookin' forward to what you make of the rest of the show.

[identity profile] youcallitwinter.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
CREYS. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS POST IS ABOUT BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY OF THIS.

(Listen, you better not forget my Coffee House post because I have given my exams in anticipation of it, so *stares hard*)

I miss you, I think, kind of, maybe, sort of, okay.

I got one thing in this post though; much greeting things and much last week to u 2.

/blackheartdrippingblood.gif

(ETA: I just saw ur intro post, congrats on your life choices.)
Edited 2013-12-29 16:15 (UTC)

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2013-12-30 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
HOW MANY MYUNGSOO ICONS DO YOU HAVE.

I thought you were planning to watch this? (Or that's the impression I got from Lauren bullying you about it, trolololol.)

(You will get your Coffee House post eventually, quiet.)

I miss you, I think, kind of, maybe, sort of, okay.

You sap.



(Congrats on Krystal's face tbh.)

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)

"i believed there must exist somewhere a girl with innocence". this monologue plays over ki eok literally cutting out body parts to create an "ideal girl". W T F.


Right? So disgusting. If I never hear the word 'innocent' used to describe a woman positively again, it will be too soon.


btw i like that sungyeol is so convincing at playing a nerd b/c it ~confirms~ my highschool/college!infinite headcanon that he and myungsoo were total l0sers at least until sungyeol grew up hot and then cheated on myungsoo with the plastics a.k.a. the 91-line. BUT THIS IS A STORY FOR ANOTHER TIME.


I LOVE YOU PLEASE MARRY ME YOU'RE PERFECT.

oh em gee minah is such a dork ilh. they could have made that dance studio scene ~sexy but nope.

I lovelovelove that. She's not perfect at all, and it's wonderful.

IF I IGNORE THE GROSSNESS OF ALL OF EP 1 AND THE SETUP OF GIEOK'S CHARACTER THEN I CAN LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS FRIENDSHIP/RELATIONSHIP.

Yeah, I basically ignored that and it made the whole show much more enjoyable.

I OT3 Gieoks bffs and the badass amazing lollipop lady.

yesssssssss minah being the boss of gieok and calling him pabo 10 million times VV GOOD.

I LOVE IT.

Sungyeol's face is so out of control on this show. SO OUT OF CONTROL.

"gieok's acting has really improved!" how meta. seriously though, sungyeol is great in this -- i hope his next project is just better/less frustrating (and longer).

I think he's really genuinely great in this. Like, I know I'm biased and just want him to be really good. But I think he's actually really good. I want more roles for him so bad it hurts.

AND THEN SHE DRUNKENLY PINCHES HIS CHEEKS AND CRIES ABOUT HOW CUTE HE IS AND BURSTS INTO TEARS AND OH NO YOU DON'T SHOW DON'T MAKE WANT TO SHIP IT. AND JIHYUN IS THE MOST ADORABLE, WHY HAVE I NEVER PAID ATTENTION TO HER BEFORE???

I KNOW. I KNOW. I KNOW. Also we clearly need to get into 4 Minute. Between Jihyun and Hyuna it's clearly perfect.

(to be serious though this unruly curls = ugly duckling trope needs to stop.)

AGREED.


gangsta sungyeol is so inappropriately motherfucking attractive i want to rip open my couch and eat it. (that said i don't find him to be threatening vibe at all.)


RIGHT?????????? I felt so ridiculous watching it and feeling like I was going to burst into flames from his hotness oh my god.

SUNGYEOL IS DISTURBINGLY ATTRACTIVE WHILE PRETENDING TO BE A DISGUSTING HUMAN BEING. I QUESTION MY TASTE FOREVER.

… why do i want fill-in-the-blanks fic of wife/gangster sungyeol during the time she was enslaved to him. WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME. WE MAY NEVER KNOW.


WE ARE THE SAME PERSON. I WANT ALL THE FIC. WHY DO I WANT IT WHY DO I SHIP IT WHEN IT'S SO CLEARLY SO WRONG.

I could seriously watch them kiss for forever. I want badass ladies to make out with all my favorite men all the time.


so this has been a vv weird journey with this show where i hated it and then by the end i loved it.

mostly, i wish we could excise all that "ideal type" nonsense from the first few episodes. if i ignore all that then the gieok/minah relationship arc is ~everything i wanted~. him falling in ~love at first sight~ and projecting all his problematic romantic fantasies on to her (which was evident enough without the show spelling it out), followed by her rejecting him and totally blowing apart said fantasies -- and then him learning how to be her friend and see her as a person rather than a romantic object. and then she realises her feelings for him because they've actually grown close and she can rely on him.

Same same same.

[identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
If I never hear the word 'innocent' used to describe a woman positively again, it will be too soon.

Hypothetical: A woman is sitting meekly behind a table, her lawyer with a Southern accent is busy charming the judge and the jury, going on and on about how ~innocent~ this poor sweet girl is, why just look at her. The woman turns towards the camera, breaking the fourth wall, and grins.

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2013-12-30 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
If I never hear the word 'innocent' used to describe a woman positively again, it will be too soon.

A-fucking-men.

TO BE FAIR I CAN'T TAKE ALL THE CREDIT FOR COLLEGE!INFINITE HEADCANON. Eleonore was the one who suggested that Sungyeol would be a wannabe plastic and screw Myungsoo over. LOVE TRIANGLE OF DOOM.

LOL, ELEONORE HAS BEEN INDOCTRINATING ME RE: 4 MINUTE, IN FACT. I'll be sure to send her your way. ;D I like a fair amount of their title tracks and also I'm becoming kind of a fangirl for Jiyoon too, so that works.

WE ARE THE SAME PERSON. I WANT ALL THE FIC. WHY DO I WANT IT WHY DO I SHIP IT WHEN IT'S SO CLEARLY SO WRONG.

YOU TOO? \o/ \o/ \o/ /o\ /o\ /o\ I blame gangster Sungyeol tbh.

Glad we are simpatico on all the things btw. :D

[identity profile] youcallitwinter.livejournal.com 2014-01-01 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
LISTEN. SO LIKE YOU TOLD LIZZIE TO LOOK THROUGH YOUR MEMORIES FOR RECS AND I LOOKED THROUGH YOUR MEMORIES TOO AND HOW DO YOU HAVE SO MUCH LILY/BARNEY FIC MEMOR(IZED?)(IED?) LIKE, I SHIP THIS TO THE NINTH CIRCLE AND BACK BUT I DIDN'T KNOW YOU LIKED IT AT ALL??

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2014-01-02 07:50 am (UTC)(link)
LOL. I DO LIKE IT (THOUGH I AM PRETTY OVER HIMYM IN GENERAL NGL)!

TBH I BASICALLY ONLY READ FIC THAT OTHER PEOPLE REC ME AND FOR SOME REASON I GUESS BARNEY/LILY FIC IS WHAT HAS BEEN RECCED TO ME THE MOST FROM THIS FANDOM?? IT IS WHAT IT IS.

[identity profile] youcallitwinter.livejournal.com 2014-01-27 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
VOMIT ALL YOUR FEELINGS TO ME HERE. (I would go the message way, but messages are the devil's own because there is no scope for italicizing or bolding or font sizing and tbh i refuse to live in a world where my fandom squee and thoughts are contained in monotone text, like, no gtfo.)

ALSO, ALSO, I WAS MISSING YOU SO MUCH. OH ALEX, JUST YESTERDAY I FINISHED WATCHING A SERIES WHICH IS ONLY THE SECOND AFTER R1997 THAT I WOULD GIVE A 10/10. IDEK WHY IT WORKED FOR ME SO MUCH. AND IT IS CRIMINALLY UNDERRATED FOR SOME REASON (and has taught me not to trust either wiki pages- or lack thereof- or ratings or popularity when it comes to kdramas.) I KNOW YOU SAID NO MORE RECS, BUT I HAD TO REC THIS ONE OVER EVERYTHING ELSE I HAVE REC-CED OKAY. BECAUSE IT TAKES ONE OF MY FAVORITE KINKS AND DOES IT WELL. SNARKY BEST FRIENDS WHO ALSO PULL EACH OTHER OUT OF GATHERINGS ON SOME-OR-THE-OTHER PRETEXT TO BITCH ABOUT EVERYONE IN THE ROOM FOR THE WIN TBH. ALSO IT DESERVES ALL THE AWARDS FOR THE ONLY FICTIONAL THING I CAN REMEMBER THAT LEGIT MADE ME FEEL THAT THE PEOPLE IN QUESTION WERE ACTUALLY BEST FRIENDS AND NOT BEST FRIENDS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE STORY DEMANDS. THIS SHOW. MY OTP. HOW WILL I SURVIVE NOW. I need to rec this to Lizzie, like, asap. Come to think of it, this is the first relationship that I've been legit jealous of, in the UGH I WANT THIS sort of way, because that's not what kdramas usually make me think, heh.

If you can't tell by my caps lock explosion, I have a lot of... feels, ahem. Although it has far more an air of realism than other kdramas, so it's not the (secret) garden-variety kdrama, BUT DAMMIT, SO GOOOOOD, guhhhh. Besides the OTP individually is so hot, I cannot. Okay, I'm done. I think.

OH, IT'S CALLED 9 End 2 Outs, although the actual title is "Bottom of the 9th with 2 outs", I didn't watch it for the longest time thinking it was about baseball with the title and promo pictures, lmao. OKAY, SO, LIKE, JUST WATCH THE FIRST EPISODE OKAY.

AND NOW, PLEASE COMMENCE WITH THE SECRET GARDEN FEELS. (Can I have a moment of Hyun Bin is fucking, unfairly gorgeous? Apart from being a BRILLIANT actor. SG is fairly problematic in its own way ofc- and it's by the Heirs people and shares a lot of the same kind of issues- BUT THIS IS WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN OTP WITH INSANE CHEMISTRY IS AS OPPOSED TO AN OTP WITH NEGATIVE CHEMISTRY Y'KNOW.)

eta because why did i not use the icon i have, it is apropros. (i cannot even with fucking hyun bin okay, just dammit, i adore him)
Edited 2014-01-27 18:22 (UTC)

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2014-01-28 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
S M H @ your latest rec. HOW DARE YOU TEMPT ME WITH SNARKY BFFS AND HOT LEADS.

But listen, this 9 Ends 2 Outs show has to be put below My Name is Kim Sam Soon on the priorities list, okay, because Hyun Bin.

... Which is to say, I agree with you 9 million percent. HOW DOES HYUN BIN. He is embarrassingly totally my type in the shallow sense but he also just shot to the top of my list of male kdrama actors, fml. THE BODY-SWAPPING PERFORMANCES THO??? His physicality, body language, even the way he changed his voice???? WHERE HAS THIS MAN BEEN ALL MY LIFE?????

Also, I unabashedly loved Joo Won in all his neurotic effeminate hideous-sparkly-tracksuit-wearing terrible, no regrets. I remember you ranting about what a great character he was and you did not lie. I WILL NEVER DOUBT AGAIN. SO GREAT. Not because he was a ~jerk with hidden depths~ but because the whole show was so dedicated to tearing holes in his supposed masculinity? \o/ \o/ \o/ Like, the use of the sparkly tracksuits was actually GENIUS? He totally SHOULD have been your typical conventionally masculine rich hero but then halfway through the first episode TROLOLOLOLOLOL fucking with all your expectations forever.

I def agree the show was problematic but tbh I wasn't really bothered? Maybe because you already warned me and I was prepared for the worst so it turned out to be less troubling than I expected??

BUT THIS IS WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN OTP WITH INSANE CHEMISTRY IS AS OPPOSED TO AN OTP WITH NEGATIVE CHEMISTRY Y'KNOW.
WHERE ARE THE LIES. ngl I was probably less bothered by the OTP in Secret Garden being problematic for this reason, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

THEN AGAIN I bought the Jan Di/Jun Pyo chemistry in Boys Over Flowers (which had the same rich-guy-persistently-pursues-poor-girl premise) but the pairing STILL made me uncomfortable? So now let me ramble and try to figure out my different reactions. (lol @ the fact I have to split this into two comments.)

[identity profile] une-jonquille.livejournal.com 2014-02-06 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Hello demon. We miss you. I have bent the space-time continuum to come back to this thread because I FINALLY finished watching the entire damn show.

And my reaction was mostly arrrrgh... just that there were so many detours, some that were delightful (like Gieok's utter failure to take any interest in getting some sort of vengeance against Minah's crush) and most that were awful (his friends/comic sidekicks, the endless not-funny drama auditions). How can a 12-minute-per-ep show have pacing problems?

so much potential wasted. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET SUNGYEOL IN A PROPER DRAMA. WHEN.

when you think of me picture a head striking a desk, forever

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2014-02-07 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
Creys because you even call me demon.

I feel you, dude. I could have done without half the show. It was pretty much Sungyeol and Jihyun that saved it for me. Still, definitely not a fave.

Let's hope 2014 is more fruitful. Even though it was just a 12-minute-per-ep show and his character wasn't anything to write home about, I think the experience was good for Sungyeol.