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03 | they are the worst possible thing to happen to each other



You and me, this was love.


This post will be a short one because (1) I expect Live Journal to choke on its interior mechanics and die, and (2) full disclosure: I... technically don't actually ship this anymore? My interest sadly fizzled out towards the end of the second season around the time the ship became bafflingly epic and starcrossed and one-true-love. I do still have some residual feelings about the Claire/Damien chemistry, but the pairing doesn't grab me like it used to. Which is a real shame, because in season one (and parts of season two), the Brody/Carrie relationship was probably the most compelling thing about the show for me -- and also one of the most gloriously destructive trainwrecks I've had the pleasure of witnessing, like, ever. I mean, does it actually get more fucked up than a terrorist and a CIA agent having an illicit affair? This is a relationship that started with her spying on him as part of the job, including watching his every private move on camera, before initiating a sexual relationship as a cover to (ostensibly) expose him; and when said exposing went awry he (and the rest of the world) basically gas-lit her into shock treatment. Now that is what I call fucking grade-A trainwrecking.

And the thing that made Brody/Carrie work (despite lbr, the sheer ludicrousness of the storyline) was the ambiguity of the entire affair. It wasn't romance, it was mutual manipulation -- except that it was romance, in some moments, when the cover slipped. Yet it was never a love story. It was never about the two being together; it was about simply asking what their relationship really was. It was about having everything you believed to be real called into question -- she the loyal officer protecting her country, he the devout traitor -- to the extent that a union entailing total betrayal of your firmest principles turns out unexpectedly to be your most emotionally intimate experience.

So, it's a shame the writers seemed to lose that thread in S2. I don't watch the show to see if Romeo and Juliet will make it work; I watch it to understand why two people on such drastically opposing sides would even be drawn to each other at all. In conclusion: I want to ship it again, and may S3 work with me.

Date: 2013-01-17 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cranmers.livejournal.com
OKAY I WENT ON TUMBLR AND IT APPEARS HE HAS A FANDOM.

WITH GIFS.

(lol)

I AM SORRY FOR NOT BELIEVING IN HIM.

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Date: 2013-01-18 08:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catteo.livejournal.com
But we love Damien more BECAUSE he is one of us that has now reached the dizzying heights of Hollywood fame and yet somehow maintains his class elitism and makes the most hilarious upper middle class acceptance speeches. Seriously. You should youtube some of this shit!

Date: 2013-01-18 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com
lol is that directed towards me? I'll be sure to put it on my to-do list. ;P

Date: 2013-01-20 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catteo.livejournal.com
Ha! It was in fact directed at [livejournal.com profile] cranmers who appears to have lost Damien when he moved over the ocean to play with Hollywood. But you should feel free to youtube some of that shit too!

Date: 2013-01-25 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cranmers.livejournal.com
So I talked to my parents and I was like "hey, so Damian Lewis has this major new show in the land of McDonald's, we should check it out" and, *drum-roll* IT TURNED OUT THEY ALREADY HAD CHECKED IT OUT... And that it was, in fact, the sole reason they now had Sky, and that while I was at university, Damian had been all over the usual chat-shows (on both sides of the Pond, now, appaz) bragging about it as per usual. And ofc. my whole family and their entire social circle are very happy for him indeed (he is still one of ussss, yeesssss?). They sent me the DVD. So, there's that.

Now I shall follow your advice and youtube him, though I still view him as a sort of popular uncle. IDEK.

(lol)

Date: 2013-01-26 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catteo.livejournal.com
This entire freaking comment MADE MY NIGHT. WE ARE FROM THE EMPIRE YO AND WE WILL CONQUER YOUR COUNTRY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

/imperial overlord chat

SKIP TO 1:20 IT IS AWESOME but maybe only to those of us that understand about "DOING WELL AT ACTING"

Date: 2013-01-26 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cranmers.livejournal.com
LMFAO. But that is bad.

/it's who we are, both of us together.

DOING.WELL.AT.ACTING

... that was the very best ^^

And Gangham Styleeee

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Date: 2013-01-27 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catteo.livejournal.com
DANCING DAMIAN!!!!!!

Oh Daily Mail, HOW I MISS YOU AND YOUR QUIPS.

And your information that is in no way biased and/or untrue.

I JUST LIKE DAMIAN AND HIS VERY PUBLIC SCHOOL BOY ATTITUDE A WHOLE LOT.

Date: 2013-01-27 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cranmers.livejournal.com
YUSSSSS!

So I'm on my phone, about to go to bed, but if I don't post this comment I will probably not even sleep. I FORGOT TO ADD A DISCLAIMER SAYING THAT THE DAILY FAIL IMAGE IS FROM TUMBLR - IT'S MERELY MEANT AS FURTHER PROOF OF THE FACT THAT OUTSIDE HOLLYWOOD DAMIAN LEWIS (AND INDEED HELEN MCCRORY) IS A MUCH LOVED, AVUNCULAR FIGURE TO ONE AND ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH - AND OFC I WOULD NEVER PURCHASE THE DAILY FAIL UNDER ANY CIRUMSTANCES AND ALL MY REFERENCES TO NEEDING PAUL DACRE TO SAVE US ARE IN FACT MEANT TO BE TAKEN AS SARCASM.

IDK. It randomly occured to me that I may have unwittingly misrepresented my sociopolitical convinctions by seeming to endorse the fail- had to rush to correct that! Sometimes I glance at headlines though. I'll admit that. :P I think it was the Mail that ran with "Fred the Pleb" after ~Sir Fred Goodwin was stripped of his knighthood? Because that was good. Also "Gordon Green: he robs from the dirty and gives to the clean" after some Labour 'green' tax initiative was another good one I seem to remember came from a tabloid. I REMEMBER THE MOST RANDOM THINGS. IDEK.

Me too. Oddly, there is something about institutional privilege that makes one appealing to like, tje most crazy diverse groups of people. Like Tom Hiddleston. Or Boris Johnson. Or Bertie Wooster. Or Hector Madden though I suspect that's just me but Dominic West Y/Y?

This comment is way too long. Longest phone comment I've ever done, probs -I KNOW YOU WILL APPRECIATE IT THOUGH. It will probably lift a load off your mind re my taste in newspapers as well. *nods*

/imperial overlord talk suspended.

Except wait what? Did you used to live in the land where the Daily Fail is published?! I thought that was just Leesa!

Date: 2013-01-29 03:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catteo.livejournal.com
So I am late in responding to this, but I was DYING LAUGHING at the fact that you thought I would think less of you for reading the Daily Fail! My mum used to read it back in the day and I used to snigger at her from behind the front page of The Times when it used to be a broadsheet! Of course, I would steal it later for the horoscopes and the sudoku!

I just find the front page headlines to be excellent. Same with all the tabloids tbh!

I LOVE ALL THE BOYS THAT YOU MENTIONED. They are the perfect examples. It's because they were brought up to open the door for you and they're TERRIBLY SELF-DEPRECATING. It's hot.

I DID APPRECIATE THIS ENTIRE COMMENT!

And YES! I grew up in the UK. I only moved here 4 years ago. I AM A POMMIE THINLY DISGUISED AS A KIWI! Don't tell anyone though...

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