driving in cars with boys;

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17. rosaxx50 prompted: Kate/Seth/Richie and why this worked for you.

I'm using this opportunity to revive THE WRONG!SHIP MEME OF COLD SWEATS AND TERROR. Yet again I have no idea which day to put this entry, but with no further ado:

23 | a couple trio you ship for the wrong reasons that fits too many of these criteria

I mean, obviously the answer to this question is that it works for me because it's HORRIBLE IN EVERY WAY. If it isn't common knowledge that I LIVE FOR THAT STOCKHOLM SYNDROME SHIT (already going to hell, nothing to see here, etc.) then let it be so now. So yeah, when the Geckos held Kate's family hostage I was like "lol, prob gonna ship it" and then lo and behold.

Oh yeah, what other kinds of things do you pick up on? Underage girls?

That would be despicable.

*derp graphic prob to be re-edited when i cbf


I ship every leg in this trash OT3. Let me count the ways.

1. Richie/Seth speaks for itself. It's become mainstream in this day and age to ship the two outlaw brothers together BUT WHAT CAN I SAY, I'M A MAINSTREAM BITCH. The lengths to which Seth and Richie have gone ~for~ each other are respectable indeed. Seth has put Richie first to the detriment of his every relationship, turned the other cheek as Richie crosses lines that (supposedly) disgust him. He doesn't know anything else; his whole world is consumed by this "debt" he owes Richie for saving his life when they were children. Meanwhile, Richie KILLED THEIR ABUSIVE DAD 4 SETH! THAT'S LOVE, BITCH. (Well, that, and Richie just wants to watch the world burn.) Of course Seth would consider that revelation a betrayal, in part because it means the narrative of his life has been a lie the whole time. But the truth frees them to turn a corner in their codependence and, by the end of the season, Richie rides away with Santanico, and Seth with Kate, away from each other. WILL THEY BE REUNITED ONCE MORE? Probably.


2. Kate/Richie was initially squick to me thanks to that pool sequence (also nhf the weird hypersexualisation of Kate) and because frankly Richie pings me on the threat level way more than Seth ever has, which I'd say is fair considering his record of murderating people (inc. women) in both alarming and hilariously blase ways. NONETHELESS, it just goes to show that I can't have Moral Objections to ships for too long before the despicable factor starts appealing to me, which is to say that re: Kate/Richie I went from SHUDDER to YEAHHHHHHHHHH in a remarkably short amount of time! The YEAH part is largely due to the way Kate employs dat soft power after the Geckos take the Fullers hostage: she's playing on that observation of Richie's spontaneous attraction to her in an effort to throw him off -- and by the time they reach the bar, she's enjoying it too.


3. LAST BUT NOT LEAST: The beauty of From Dusk Till Dawn is that it's so balls-out insane that Kate riding off with Seth into the sunset at the end of the season is one of the less eyebrow-raising events in the show. And it is absolutely testament to my inability to give a fuck that I found this ending rather hopeful and even romantic (#a moment of silence for my psychological health). NO BUT LISTEN. Is there any trope more bulletproof than people unexpectedly banding together because of mutual abandonment? Kate's trauma is obvious: she's just lost all the family she had left, almost all at once -- first the senseless loss of her mother, followed by her brother being turned into a monster, following by her having to stake her own goddamn father. Meanwhile, Seth's built his entire life around his brother, believing they would always be Us VS. The World, only to have him apparently pick someone else. (THEM KATE|SCOTT + RICHIE|SETH PARALLELS.) They're the leftovers: the preacher's daughter whose faith has been obliterated, and the professional thief who doesn't believe in anything. It actually makes sense that after everything they'd choose to stick together, because the rest of the world no longer makes sense to either of them.

IN CONCLUSION:

✿♥‿♥✿ ✿♥‿♥✿ ✿♥‿♥✿ ✿♥‿♥✿ ✿♥‿♥✿

Comments

[rosaxx50.livejournal.com]

I do think this is one of the ships where they're at their moral worst around one another. By worst I mean, care the least about anything.

1. I have been thinking about this the past couple of weeks/months, and you know, I don't think co-dependent siblings is my thing after all? But obvs Seth/Richie = most fascinating and sadly co-dependent who nevertheless end the series far apart, ~we have a sacred bond~ (said however ironically)

2. TBH I'm still stuck on the pool sequence. I like what Richie/Kate is in canon with the soft power muscles being stretched as you say, plus Kate actually connecting with Richie too on some level but mostly it's for a power/rebellion trip (early on) and then to get the hell out of dodge alive (later on), but I don't have ~shippy feelings for it.

3. Which makes it all the more ironic that I do have feelings for Kate/Seth, and they're the only pairing in the show that actually gives me shippy feelings (as opposed to fascination and/or pain). But like you said:

Is there any trope more bulletproof than people unexpectedly banding together because of mutual abandonment?

NO THERE IS NOT

(THEM KATE|SCOTT + RICHIE|SETH PARALLELS.) They're the leftovers: the preacher's daughter whose faith has been obliterated, and the professional thief who doesn't believe in anything. It actually makes sense that after everything they'd choose to stick together, because the rest of the world no longer makes sense to either of them.

*Draws hearts and flowers and skulls around this*

This is 110% the reason I ship them tbh, they are literally THE ONLY ONES LEFT. (Except Freddie... but Freddie still has a family to go back to. His arc culminates in choosing his family over revenge.) It's not even about who they are, so much as what they have been through.

[silverusagi]

There is something strangely compelling about all of them... So very wrong in every way.

[xx-pinkstar.livejournal.com]

everything is so beautiful and well bone structured

Part 1 (the most embarrassing chain of comments)

[scorpiod1.livejournal.com]

bless you and bless this post tbh

It's become mainstream in this day and age to ship the two outlaw brothers together BUT WHAT CAN I SAY, I'M A MAINSTREAM BITCH

HIGH FIVES MAINSTREAM BITCHES TOGETHER. Sometimes I feel embarrassed by how into Seth/Richie I am because like...oh, look, white guy slash, what else is new BUT I JUST FEEL SO MANY THINGS, OUTLAW AMORAL BROS ARE MY EVERYTHING /o\ #in all fairness, I've shipped it since the film, so when I heard there was going to be a show about it, I was just "oh no I'm going to ship it even harder" and welp, I did.

turned the other cheek as Richie crosses lines that (supposedly) disgust him.

SUPPOSEDLY XDDD that's what kills me, man, like, he was angry about Monica's death for about...a minute? Before he went to hugging him and stroking his hair and telling him they will all be okay. His main concern afterwards was RICHIE DON'T GET US CAUGHT. Seth Gecko has problems. Meanwhile at least when Santanico's influence wore off, Richie expressed guilt for killing her, while Seth...never really did feel bad about just stepping over her body (not that I am trying to absolve Richie as responsibility in killing Monica, but like. at least he felt bad at some point, despite his balls out rationalizations immediately after murdering her. Seth just wanted to get Richie to Mexico lmao)

his whole world is consumed by this "debt" he owes Richie for saving his life when they were children

Oh man I have a lot of feelings about this, this just kills me really because tbh but I do think he feels he owes Richie a debt but it's not even for saving his life that one time as a kid, at least, not just that. I think he SAYS that to make it simple, repayable, but Seth said that Richie used to keep their dad off him as a kid and try to protect him, and I imagine Richie must have saved Seth several other times before in their life and times of being bank robbers, so I feel the reason why it's such a heavy thing is that it's a debt from his whole life. IS THERE EVER ANY REPAYING IT? But I feel that's why Richie tries to set him free at the end from it, so I just /o\ But yeah, figuring out that Richie KILLED their dad changes things, like, I still don't think he was mad because HOW DARE YOU KILL DAD but HOW DARE YOU LIE TO ME FOR MY WHOLE LIFE ABOUT IT, given Seth sees himself as the conman, not the one being conned, and he and Richie are supposed to share everything but...not this apparently. I honestly think he'd be a lot less angry about it if it weren't for like...the way and circumstances he was told.

(Which I find really interesting! Because the labyrinth is supposed to use your mind's memories used to torment you, so was Seth in Richie's head when his labyrinth!Dad told him the truth about Richie, or was that just Seth's own head, already subconsciously aware of the lighter fluid smell and no longer being able to lie to himself about it? #THINGS I THINK ABOUT)

#I think about Seth/Richie a lot ahaha help me I'm sorry for this ramble