driving in cars with boys;

[ever_neutral]

17. rosaxx50 prompted: Kate/Seth/Richie and why this worked for you.

I'm using this opportunity to revive THE WRONG!SHIP MEME OF COLD SWEATS AND TERROR. Yet again I have no idea which day to put this entry, but with no further ado:

23 | a couple trio you ship for the wrong reasons that fits too many of these criteria

I mean, obviously the answer to this question is that it works for me because it's HORRIBLE IN EVERY WAY. If it isn't common knowledge that I LIVE FOR THAT STOCKHOLM SYNDROME SHIT (already going to hell, nothing to see here, etc.) then let it be so now. So yeah, when the Geckos held Kate's family hostage I was like "lol, prob gonna ship it" and then lo and behold.

Oh yeah, what other kinds of things do you pick up on? Underage girls?

That would be despicable.

*derp graphic prob to be re-edited when i cbf


I ship every leg in this trash OT3. Let me count the ways.

1. Richie/Seth speaks for itself. It's become mainstream in this day and age to ship the two outlaw brothers together BUT WHAT CAN I SAY, I'M A MAINSTREAM BITCH. The lengths to which Seth and Richie have gone ~for~ each other are respectable indeed. Seth has put Richie first to the detriment of his every relationship, turned the other cheek as Richie crosses lines that (supposedly) disgust him. He doesn't know anything else; his whole world is consumed by this "debt" he owes Richie for saving his life when they were children. Meanwhile, Richie KILLED THEIR ABUSIVE DAD 4 SETH! THAT'S LOVE, BITCH. (Well, that, and Richie just wants to watch the world burn.) Of course Seth would consider that revelation a betrayal, in part because it means the narrative of his life has been a lie the whole time. But the truth frees them to turn a corner in their codependence and, by the end of the season, Richie rides away with Santanico, and Seth with Kate, away from each other. WILL THEY BE REUNITED ONCE MORE? Probably.


2. Kate/Richie was initially squick to me thanks to that pool sequence (also nhf the weird hypersexualisation of Kate) and because frankly Richie pings me on the threat level way more than Seth ever has, which I'd say is fair considering his record of murderating people (inc. women) in both alarming and hilariously blase ways. NONETHELESS, it just goes to show that I can't have Moral Objections to ships for too long before the despicable factor starts appealing to me, which is to say that re: Kate/Richie I went from SHUDDER to YEAHHHHHHHHHH in a remarkably short amount of time! The YEAH part is largely due to the way Kate employs dat soft power after the Geckos take the Fullers hostage: she's playing on that observation of Richie's spontaneous attraction to her in an effort to throw him off -- and by the time they reach the bar, she's enjoying it too.


3. LAST BUT NOT LEAST: The beauty of From Dusk Till Dawn is that it's so balls-out insane that Kate riding off with Seth into the sunset at the end of the season is one of the less eyebrow-raising events in the show. And it is absolutely testament to my inability to give a fuck that I found this ending rather hopeful and even romantic (#a moment of silence for my psychological health). NO BUT LISTEN. Is there any trope more bulletproof than people unexpectedly banding together because of mutual abandonment? Kate's trauma is obvious: she's just lost all the family she had left, almost all at once -- first the senseless loss of her mother, followed by her brother being turned into a monster, following by her having to stake her own goddamn father. Meanwhile, Seth's built his entire life around his brother, believing they would always be Us VS. The World, only to have him apparently pick someone else. (THEM KATE|SCOTT + RICHIE|SETH PARALLELS.) They're the leftovers: the preacher's daughter whose faith has been obliterated, and the professional thief who doesn't believe in anything. It actually makes sense that after everything they'd choose to stick together, because the rest of the world no longer makes sense to either of them.

IN CONCLUSION:

✿♥‿♥✿ ✿♥‿♥✿ ✿♥‿♥✿ ✿♥‿♥✿ ✿♥‿♥✿

Comments

[rosaxx50.livejournal.com]

I do think this is one of the ships where they're at their moral worst around one another. By worst I mean, care the least about anything.

1. I have been thinking about this the past couple of weeks/months, and you know, I don't think co-dependent siblings is my thing after all? But obvs Seth/Richie = most fascinating and sadly co-dependent who nevertheless end the series far apart, ~we have a sacred bond~ (said however ironically)

2. TBH I'm still stuck on the pool sequence. I like what Richie/Kate is in canon with the soft power muscles being stretched as you say, plus Kate actually connecting with Richie too on some level but mostly it's for a power/rebellion trip (early on) and then to get the hell out of dodge alive (later on), but I don't have ~shippy feelings for it.

3. Which makes it all the more ironic that I do have feelings for Kate/Seth, and they're the only pairing in the show that actually gives me shippy feelings (as opposed to fascination and/or pain). But like you said:

Is there any trope more bulletproof than people unexpectedly banding together because of mutual abandonment?

NO THERE IS NOT

(THEM KATE|SCOTT + RICHIE|SETH PARALLELS.) They're the leftovers: the preacher's daughter whose faith has been obliterated, and the professional thief who doesn't believe in anything. It actually makes sense that after everything they'd choose to stick together, because the rest of the world no longer makes sense to either of them.

*Draws hearts and flowers and skulls around this*

This is 110% the reason I ship them tbh, they are literally THE ONLY ONES LEFT. (Except Freddie... but Freddie still has a family to go back to. His arc culminates in choosing his family over revenge.) It's not even about who they are, so much as what they have been through.

[ever-neutral.livejournal.com]

A fair point but I have that day marked out for Angel/Darla. D:

1. BUT. HOW CAN YOU SAY THESE THINGS SO CALMLY WHILE USING A BORGIAS ICON? GET YOUR MIXED SIGNALS UNDER CONTROL.

2. Yeah, Richie/Kate is more an intellectual ship, not an emotional feelz one like the other two legs. I don't have a burning need to see it be more explored than it has been (and besides Richie's off with Santanico now), but all their interactions have been class, so it belongs here.

3. (lol, as far as I'm concerned fascination/pain are synonymous with "shippy feels" but we know what I'm like.) DON'T QUESTION IT. EMBRACE THE UNEXPECTED FEELS.

they are literally THE ONLY ONES LEFT.

HORROR SHOW SURVIVORS OTP. This has potential for some amazing codependence tbh, next season cannot come soon enough.

Except Freddie... but Freddie still has a family to go back to. His arc culminates in choosing his family over revenge.

*single manly tear*

[rosaxx50.livejournal.com]

Maybe it's a co-dependent boys thing because I don't usually care about the boys enough?

I really ship Cesare/Lucrezia because it's... not that co-dependent though?I feel like want each other intensely, but I don't think they really need each other (so much as Cesare needs her safe), and I could see them happy living apart, as long as they frequently visit one another.

#3 "the pain" only applies to Carlos/Santanico though, and I don't really have ~feelings about them per say (except when they break up and I find the scenes themselves emotional for me), because away from watching canon they don't actually give me feelings so much as some intellectual glee?

I can't wait for s2 either wheeeeeere iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. I imagine if we don't get an s2 though.

[ever-neutral.livejournal.com]

lol, let's not argue about the definition of codependence.

#3: Same, I ~appreciate Carlos/Santanico but I'm not frothing at the mouth for their interactions like I am other dynamics. Then again, for the "frothing at the mouth" part to happen I need to be able to see the development of the relationship, and Carlos/Santanico is all in the past.

I imagine if we don't get an s2 though.

R u joking. Don't come to my bar with these sorts of comments.

[scorpiod1.livejournal.com]

I imagine if we don't get an s2 though.

SHUSH DON'T SAY SUCH THINGS. CARLOS COTO IS WRITING THE SCRIPTS RIGHT NOW! /o\